In elementary and middle school I learned about the Egyptians multiple times in my history classes. Their art pieces were often displayed in pictures surrounding the text and it was always distracting because of how detailed they were. Also, since I had no idea what the symbols meant, it was also very confusing to understand. However, one thing that I noticed right away was that some people were always bigger than others. The people that were bigger, to me, were the important ones. In our last class my little thought was proven correct. Now that I think about it, it's quite obvious why the most important Egyptians were painted, drawn, or sculptured bigger than everyone else. It could be because of movies and shows, but Egyptian rulers to me have always been on the concieted side. Now I really do believe them to be concieted because I know a small meaning behind their art pieces.
Chapter 11 made me think of a timeline of how art has evolved through time and how rulers and politicians have used this media express their power and inforce their ideas. I noticed that sculpture and paintings were the medium most commonly used back before the 20th century, big murals stood tall to show the story of a powerful ruler. On pg 281 we see a great leap in time and also in technology in a still shot of a film of Hitler and the Nazi regime. Film became a way of politician getting to connect to the commoner and share his ideas and beliefs. Fast foward from that still shot in the 1930's to the last presedential campaign we had and we see technology only moving more foward. President Obama used the internet to connect with people and gain votes, he used such mediums as You Tube, myspace, facebook, his face was all over the web, and apparently people listened as he became our president.
In Burning of the Sanjo place the soldiers fight a sense of focus, not bothered by the increasing fire around them. Their large swords are a symbol of their power and presence. Their uniforms are heavily decorated and offer a sense of nobility. The fire careens up towards the sky and the lines create a intense sense of movement. We are viewing the situation from a taller height, close enough to see enough detail, but almost to far to take any action. The lines of the buildings move towards the heavens in the same angle the buildings do symbolizing the death present. The faces of those being attacked seem helpless. I wonder are the soldiers invading or protecting their property?
For Chapter 11, Power, Politics and Glory, I chose the photograph from the film, Triumph of the Will, (1934) by Leni Riefenstahl. The picture is blurry, and has no PRECISE detail; it shows everyone individually, but nobody specifically. It showcases Hitler's powerful army standing in rigid formation behind their leader. This black and white piece of propaganda doesn't focus on any one person, but just focuses on the crowd as a whole. The rows of soldiers just show the amount of pure power and defiant arrogance that this army holds. It is done so by consuming almost the entire photo with positive space, which is comprised of all most all soldiers.
I believe that the fact that there is no precise detail on anyone one person, because the photographer did not want individuality to be the focus, rather, she wanted everyone as a whole to be depicted as a face-less killing machine. I find that the fact that this picture captured this many people in such a neat and orderly fashion is quite enticing, simply because when I see this many people (If I Ever Have) in one place, they are in disorder and scattered. This picture pretty much sums up the topic of Power, Politics, and Glory because it brings all three of those things together. The photo show cases the power of this army/the propaganda influence, the politics that were used to attain this army, and the glory of battle.
In Chapter 11 page 298 there is a picture of Brigadier General Nguyen executing the suspected leader of a Vietcong commando unit. This picture is very personal, it gives you the feeling of you being there witnessing the executing as it happens. You can see the anguish in the Vietcong leader as he is about to be executed. And makes you think what could have this man be thinking about as he is about to die. This picture shows us how war can change a person into being able to kill with no hesitation. We even see a soldier just looking at the Vietcong commander as he is being executed. Most people that have never been to war might feel sorry for this man that is being executed, and think that how can the General kill this man with no expression to his face. And this people might think that they could never kill a man this way. But until you are in the same situation you don’t know what you are capable of doing. Mario Mosqueda
My initial reaction towards the subject of power, politics and glory was, alright! Now I get to see how throughout the years people in power extended their influence through the use of art. What I have understood from this chapter is that with the use of a sculpture, painting or installation, the people who viewed it, their perceptions were greatly influenced to what the people who commissioned the art wanted it to be. Sometimes ones spoken words are not enough to influence one's political agenda, their words are not striking, their tone of voice is not as melodic to successfully set forth their political agenda, that is why mural like works were erected. Murals are very useful to illustrate ones Political agenda by illustrating one's idea in a very dramatic manner that benefits it commissioner. Or that a person of power like a king, pharaoh, minister or some in power physical, physique, body build is not enough to employ the sense of power so the creations of larger than life perfect statues were erected to successfully put that idea across to the people or followers. In the case of glory, art, statues were great tools to capture a snapshot of someone’s glory like during the post victory rally of a king win in battle. One of the pieces in chapter 11 that caught my eye was figure 11.1 (Menkaure and his wife.) This statue if a perfect example, at least for me a great example of glory and power. To start of this statue was made a sleight a strong stone which it give a sense of strength. The pose of the couple just by looking at it gives you the sense of authority, control, influence and authority. It gives a sense of calmness and strength, not weakness, frailness or nervousness. Perfect example of glory!!!!! The material used to make it and the pose.
Jairo Cisneros
I belive I still have submitted this commentary on time because we have still not finished discussing this chapter in class.
When I first looked at “Man at the Crossroads”, my first impression was that the painting was made from crazy, random ideas that were put together, of which a mural was created. It was fascinating to define the mural from the maker’s perspective, Diego Rivera. The message I received from researching the mural was that Diego was passionate of his art but just as well about politics. He used his art to convey political messages. From power, politics and glory section, I realized that most people that go to museums ‘don’t, get it’, don’t get the true meaning behind the art piece. I was at the Louve 5 years ago and I totally regret not taking the class before then :( . G.Huerta
I found the architecture to be an interesting aspect in the topic of "Power, Politics, and Glory". Especially after I came across the picture of The Great Wall of China. It's always been talked about as one of the 7 wonders of the world but I never realized it was built as protection from invasion. I find the work that went into it remarkable. Unlike the Berlin and Palestine walls that just look like a flat wall meant to keep people out. It's interesting to me that those walls were/are a canvas for social protest. I guess it was the nature and purpose in which they were built. I wonder if there was any art work created in protest of The Great Wall of China. At any rate the wall follows the rolling hills of the land imitating what nature has already laid out which I think makes is less intimidating than say the Palestine wall which has vertical slabs that stick out rather than follow nature.
This is one Chapter that to me is full of controversy as politics and power always are. It is a very intimidating chapter. Whenever there is a discussion about these topics, a universal agreement is never really achieved. First, because it is difficult to express an opinion in fear of judgement or repercussion. If you dare disagree with current laws or politics, you can be attacked or criticized to be silenced. But doesn't this betray the most fundamental right many of us in this country believe we have, the freedom of speech? We have to watch what we say because we could get in trouble and be categorized as being “politically incorrect”. Second, because when it comes to religion or politics, the conversation will most often turn heated and end up in some sort of argument, if not a brawl or even war. These are complicated topics which to me are some of the MAIN causes of wars.
Ch. 11.. I want to talk about the presentation I did for this Chapter.. Power, Politics and Glory. We did Louis the 14Th Bust by Jeff koons.. I really enjoyed going to LACMA and seeing this piece. I learned that the context of the art work can really show Power. That the way somebody is depicted in an art piece can make a difference. Louis XIV was made in polish stainless steel and made very muscular*. It made him seem like if he was a GOD. Louis XIV always tried to portray himself as a man of power and wealth ( WHICH HE DID HAVE ) .. Even in the painting that he has of himself standing in his palace posing shows how rich he is with the context of what he is wearing and the things behind him. Louis XIV was always trying to make himself look stronger physically in art works of himself. Art has the power to even fall victim of political views.
I was part of a group responsible for making a presentation on this subject, Power, Politics, and Glory. Initially I was pretty sure I would be bored with the subjec matter, but once we chose the piece we presented on, I became much more interested. We chose one painting in a four-part series done by Norman Rockwell (Freedom of Speech).
I was responsible for the first part of the presentation, where we are to learn more about the artist. I was very happy we selected this artist because I became aware of how significant his work was in politics during the time. Though he was an illustrator, his work was absolutely everywhere! He certainly was the "go-to" guy when it came to illustrating political themes, and I would recommend checking out his work in further detail. I think we are actually going to visit his museum when we are on the east coast this fall.
Brigadier General Nguyen Ngoc Loan summarily executing the suspected leader of a vietcong commando unit, by Eddie Adams. What a powerful image. The political reververations in the American international political landscape must have been tremendous, as this photo must have horrified the American public and further solidified the protest against the war. The photo also communicates that power corrupts and that those who defy authority are prone to deadly and cruel repercussions for the folly of their defiance to power and authority. The image is so obviously anti-war, if not also anti-power. It also leands a strong counter balance to war memorials and the romantization of war.
In elementary and middle school I learned about the Egyptians multiple times in my history classes. Their art pieces were often displayed in pictures surrounding the text and it was always distracting because of how detailed they were. Also, since I had no idea what the symbols meant, it was also very confusing to understand. However, one thing that I noticed right away was that some people were always bigger than others. The people that were bigger, to me, were the important ones. In our last class my little thought was proven correct. Now that I think about it, it's quite obvious why the most important Egyptians were painted, drawn, or sculptured bigger than everyone else. It could be because of movies and shows, but Egyptian rulers to me have always been on the concieted side. Now I really do believe them to be concieted because I know a small meaning behind their art pieces.
ReplyDeleteChapter 11 made me think of a timeline of how art has evolved through time and how rulers and politicians have used this media express their power and inforce their ideas. I noticed that sculpture and paintings were the medium most commonly used back before the 20th century, big murals stood tall to show the story of a powerful ruler. On pg 281 we see a great leap in time and also in technology in a still shot of a film of Hitler and the Nazi regime. Film became a way of politician getting to connect to the commoner and share his ideas and beliefs. Fast foward from that still shot in the 1930's to the last presedential campaign we had and we see technology only moving more foward. President Obama used the internet to connect with people and gain votes, he used such mediums as You Tube, myspace, facebook, his face was all over the web, and apparently people listened as he became our president.
ReplyDeleteIn Burning of the Sanjo place the soldiers fight a sense of focus, not bothered by the increasing fire around them. Their large swords are a symbol of their power and presence. Their uniforms are heavily decorated and offer a sense of nobility. The fire careens up towards the sky and the lines create a intense sense of movement. We are viewing the situation from a taller height, close enough to see enough detail, but almost to far to take any action. The lines of the buildings move towards the heavens in the same angle the buildings do symbolizing the death present. The faces of those being attacked seem helpless. I wonder are the soldiers invading or protecting their property?
ReplyDeleteFor Chapter 11, Power, Politics and Glory, I chose the photograph from the film, Triumph of the Will, (1934) by Leni Riefenstahl. The picture is blurry, and has no PRECISE detail; it shows everyone individually, but nobody specifically. It showcases Hitler's powerful army standing in rigid formation behind their leader. This black and white piece of propaganda doesn't focus on any one person, but just focuses on the crowd as a whole. The rows of soldiers just show the amount of pure power and defiant arrogance that this army holds. It is done so by consuming almost the entire photo with positive space, which is comprised of all most all soldiers.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the fact that there is no precise detail on anyone one person, because the photographer did not want individuality to be the focus, rather, she wanted everyone as a whole to be depicted as a face-less killing machine. I find that the fact that this picture captured this many people in such a neat and orderly fashion is quite enticing, simply because when I see this many people (If I Ever Have) in one place, they are in disorder and scattered. This picture pretty much sums up the topic of Power, Politics, and Glory because it brings all three of those things together. The photo show cases the power of this army/the propaganda influence, the politics that were used to attain this army, and the glory of battle.
David Moore
In Chapter 11 page 298 there is a picture of Brigadier General Nguyen executing the suspected leader of a Vietcong commando unit. This picture is very personal, it gives you the feeling of you being there witnessing the executing as it happens. You can see the anguish in the Vietcong leader as he is about to be executed. And makes you think what could have this man be thinking about as he is about to die. This picture shows us how war can change a person into being able to kill with no hesitation. We even see a soldier just looking at the Vietcong commander as he is being executed. Most people that have never been to war might feel sorry for this man that is being executed, and think that how can the General kill this man with no expression to his face. And this people might think that they could never kill a man this way. But until you are in the same situation you don’t know what you are capable of doing.
ReplyDeleteMario Mosqueda
My initial reaction towards the subject of power, politics and glory was, alright! Now I get to see how throughout the years people in power extended their influence through the use of art. What I have understood from this chapter is that with the use of a sculpture, painting or installation, the people who viewed it, their perceptions were greatly influenced to what the people who commissioned the art wanted it to be. Sometimes ones spoken words are not enough to influence one's political agenda, their words are not striking, their tone of voice is not as melodic to successfully set forth their political agenda, that is why mural like works were erected. Murals are very useful to illustrate ones Political agenda by illustrating one's idea in a very dramatic manner that benefits it commissioner. Or that a person of power like a king, pharaoh, minister or some in power physical, physique, body build is not enough to employ the sense of power so the creations of larger than life perfect statues were erected to successfully put that idea across to the people or followers. In the case of glory, art, statues were great tools to capture a snapshot of someone’s glory like during the post victory rally of a king win in battle.
ReplyDeleteOne of the pieces in chapter 11 that caught my eye was figure 11.1 (Menkaure and his wife.) This statue if a perfect example, at least for me a great example of glory and power. To start of this statue was made a sleight a strong stone which it give a sense of strength. The pose of the couple just by looking at it gives you the sense of authority, control, influence and authority. It gives a sense of calmness and strength, not weakness, frailness or nervousness. Perfect example of glory!!!!! The material used to make it and the pose.
Jairo Cisneros
I belive I still have submitted this commentary on time because we have still not finished discussing this chapter in class.
When I first looked at “Man at the Crossroads”, my first impression was that the painting was made from crazy, random ideas that were put together, of which a mural was created. It was fascinating to define the mural from the maker’s perspective, Diego Rivera. The message I received from researching the mural was that Diego was passionate of his art but just as well about politics. He used his art to convey political messages.
ReplyDeleteFrom power, politics and glory section, I realized that most people that go to museums ‘don’t, get it’, don’t get the true meaning behind the art piece. I was at the Louve 5 years ago and I totally regret not taking the class before then :( .
G.Huerta
I found the architecture to be an interesting aspect in the topic of "Power, Politics, and Glory". Especially after I came across the picture of The Great Wall of China. It's always been talked about as one of the 7 wonders of the world but I never realized it was built as protection from invasion. I find the work that went into it remarkable. Unlike the Berlin and Palestine walls that just look like a flat wall meant to keep people out. It's interesting to me that those walls were/are a canvas for social protest. I guess it was the nature and purpose in which they were built. I wonder if there was any art work created in protest of The Great Wall of China. At any rate the wall follows the rolling hills of the land imitating what nature has already laid out which I think makes is less intimidating than say the Palestine wall which has vertical slabs that stick out rather than follow nature.
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ReplyDeleteThis is one Chapter that to me is full of controversy as politics and power always are. It is a very intimidating chapter. Whenever there is a discussion about these topics, a universal agreement is never really achieved. First, because it is difficult to express an opinion in fear of judgement or repercussion. If you dare disagree with current laws or politics, you can be attacked or criticized to be silenced. But doesn't this betray the most fundamental right many of us in this country believe we have, the freedom of speech? We have to watch what we say because we could get in trouble and be categorized as being “politically incorrect”. Second, because when it comes to religion or politics, the conversation will most often turn heated and end up in some sort of argument, if not a brawl or even war. These are complicated topics which to me are some of the MAIN causes of wars.
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Ch. 11..
ReplyDeleteI want to talk about the presentation I did for this Chapter.. Power, Politics and Glory.
We did Louis the 14Th Bust by Jeff koons..
I really enjoyed going to LACMA and seeing this piece. I learned that the context of the art work can really show Power. That the way somebody is depicted in an art piece can make a difference. Louis XIV was made in polish stainless steel and made very muscular*. It made him seem like if he was a GOD. Louis XIV always tried to portray himself as a man of power and wealth ( WHICH HE DID HAVE ) ..
Even in the painting that he has of himself standing in his palace posing shows how rich he is with the context of what he is wearing and the things behind him. Louis XIV was always trying to make himself look stronger physically in art works of himself. Art has the power to even fall victim of political views.
I was part of a group responsible for making a presentation on this subject, Power, Politics, and Glory. Initially I was pretty sure I would be bored with the subjec matter, but once we chose the piece we presented on, I became much more interested. We chose one painting in a four-part series done by Norman Rockwell (Freedom of Speech).
ReplyDeleteI was responsible for the first part of the presentation, where we are to learn more about the artist. I was very happy we selected this artist because I became aware of how significant his work was in politics during the time. Though he was an illustrator, his work was absolutely everywhere! He certainly was the "go-to" guy when it came to illustrating political themes, and I would recommend checking out his work in further detail. I think we are actually going to visit his museum when we are on the east coast this fall.
Brigadier General Nguyen Ngoc Loan summarily executing the suspected leader of a vietcong commando unit, by Eddie Adams. What a powerful image. The political reververations in the American international political landscape must have been tremendous, as this photo must have horrified the American public and further solidified the protest against the war. The photo also communicates that power corrupts and that those who defy authority are prone to deadly and cruel repercussions for the folly of their defiance to power and authority. The image is so obviously anti-war, if not also anti-power. It also leands a strong counter balance to war memorials and the romantization of war.
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